YOU would have to look long
and hard to find someone who felt less warmly about the movement known as
progressive rock as your humble blogger. (If the genre was bad in its original
appearance, it seemed doubly awful in its ‘80s AOR rebirth.) I expect a lot of
us who came of age in the years after punk feel the same way, and preferred the
concision of college radio or “modern rock” acts like R.E.M. and Elvis Costello
to endless prog symphonies. (Of course, I will make an exception here for the bizarre genius of Robert Fripp.)
Why, then, can’t I put down
this new book, Yes is the Answer, a
collection of writers on prog? I’m still not sure, but I love its combination
of humor and critical seriousness. The book is edited by longtime LA writer Marc Weingarten – an old friend whose music journalism I read in the '90s -- and Tyson Cornell, who once booked
authors at Book Soup and now runs Rare Bird Lit.
The years between Sgt. Pepper’s and those first Clash and
Pistols singles were a strange disorienting time for rock music. Glam found one
way out of that puzzle, and prog took another road. Was all that heavy,
high-pitched silliness worth it?
In any case, Yes is the Answer includes writer/producer
Seth Greenland on The Nice, novelist Matthew Specktor on Yes, Wesley Stace
(John Wesley Harding) on the prog scene of Canterbury, UK, Rick Moody on
Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Jim DeRogatis on Genesis, music writer Margaret
Wappler on getting laid to King Crimson, New York Times food writer Jeff
Gordinier on how failed sex is a lot like a Styx concert, writer/bassist Jim
Greer on Guided by Voices' debt to prog, and many other sharp, counter-intuitive pieces. Overall, it's way more fun than it has any business being. Keep your eyes peeled for
events around town. For now, here is my conversation with Weingarten.
Why did this seem like the right time
for a book on this once-mighty musical form? Is there a prog revival going on,
like when Yes returned with “Owner of a Lonely Heart,” and Rush and Asia were
rockin’ the suburbs?
I think there are a lot of bands out
there who secretly love prog but don't want to admit it - they have no cultural
cover, so to speak, because this is the last rock subgenre that hasn't been
reclaimed by hipsters. So, we thought it was a good a time as any to
point out that there's a lot of great music here, made at a time of pretty
outrageous and often overreaching experimentation. Which is also part of the
charm of prog - how crazily ambitious it was. I love the idea of bands
writing hour-long suites and traveling with orchestras - it speaks to a kind of
silly grandeur that I think is lacking in indie rock - you see it in
contemporary metal, I suppose.
Most of your contributors are -- like
you and me -- Xers who came of age with post-punk or alt-rock. We’re a
generation, then, for whom prog became a punch line or a bad memory. What
undercut prog’s world domination back then?
Because Prog was almost exclusively a
British phenomenon, it was completely stomped by Punk Rock, because Punk in
England was really a tsunami. It was time for Prog to go, anyway - it had
gotten really overblown and quite awful. I don't think any of our
contributors would argue that Relayer is better than London's Calling, but we
all have a soft spot for Prog.
How did you and your co-editor come
up with your contributors? There are a few well-known rock critics like Jim
DeRogatis, but mostly this is literary folk.
We didnt want this to be a wonky,
"Robert Fripp created Frippertronics in 1979," facts-and-figures book.
We didn't see the point of that, especially with a genre like Prog, which is so
rooted in adolescence, and cherished memories of early drug experiences, arena
shows and gatefold album analysis. It seemed like a good idea to have
non-music writers have a fresh go at it.
I count two women among all the
contributors, and suspect this is NOT the fault of the editors. Could it be
that prog has traditionally been a guy thing, and as some of your essayists
suggest, a pre-adolescent guy thing?
Totally young dude thing. One hundred
percent!
Do you have a favorite prog band or
album? Anything involving Phil Collins?
Well, Phil Collins is an incredible
drummer - and I do love all the Gabriel-era Genesis stuff. I guess King
Crimson's Red is my favorite album - a noisy, dark and disturbing record. So
unlike most Prog, in other words!
THE other day I spoke to Joe Boyd, the Britfolk impresario, because of his new tribute record, Way to Blue. The album is in honor of Nick Drake, who Boyd helped discover way back in the late '60s, and whose career was delicate, melancholy and all too short.
Today, Drake is revered not only be neo-folkies but by the leading jazz musician of my generation, pianist Brad Mehldau.
Boyd, of course, also had a role in Newport '65, the birth of Pink Floyd, Richard Thompson and Fairport Convention, AND produced what may be our favorite R.E.M. record, the enigmatic third album Fables of the Reconstruction.
Boyd got his start as a preppie New Jersey teenager who helped coax blues and jazz great Lonnie Johnson out of retirement.
Here is my conversation with Boyd, whose memoir of the musical '60s, White Bicycles, I cannot recommend highly enough.
A SHORT, insightful new book about the making of the modern
world – told in microcosm – has just come from the pen of a noted indie rocker.
Here at The Misread City, we’ve been impressed with the
melancholy genius of Matt Kadane since the first record, What Fun Life Was, from his old band, Dallas slowcore quartet
Bedhead. Like the group that followed, The New Year, Bedhead was defined by
melodic songwriting and intricate, understated guitar playing – VU’s hushed
third record, with a bit of Sonic Youth and New Order, a hint of Texas twang,
and almost no effects. (I wrote about The New Year for the LA Times in 2008, and the video for their song "Disease" appears near the end of this post.)
Turns out Kadane (who led both groups with his bearded
brother Bubba) spent much of his musical career getting a doctorate at
Brown; these days he teaches history at Hobart and
William Smith College in upstate New York.
In any case, Kadane’s new book is The Watchful Clothier: The
Life of an Eighteenth-Century Protestant Capitalist. This is the kind of
history we like – lucid, free of jargon and with a clear narrative and
analytical direction. (Full disclosure: The
Watchful Clothier appears on Yale University Press, the house on which I
will publish my own work on the perils of the creative class, sometime next
year.) It takes off from some ideas of one of our favorite historians, Christopher Hill. whose book on English radicalism, The World Turned Upside Down, inspired song sung by Billy Bragg song. (The Watchful Clothier, for what it's worth, includes an endorsement from the important historian Joyce Appleby, though it awaits its treatment by a British pop artist.)
What follows is my Q and A, conducted by email, with the
historian and indie rocker. I ask Kadane about both sides of his amphibious
identity.
Protestantism
and the market economy are two of the key forces in the modern West, and have
been specially joined at least since Max Weber and maybe since the Puritans.
How did your "watchful clothier" seem like the right lens though
which to gaze at these big issues?
The
clothier, Joseph Ryder, lived in eighteenth-century Leeds where he ran a small
business. Leeds was one of the great cities of the industrial revolution
and was undergoing big changes during Ryder's life, which ended in 1768, right
around the time that industrialization was noticeably beginning. But
already while he was in his active years, the population was growing at an
unprecedented rate, more and more people were becoming wage laborers, the cloth
that the town produced was heading to markets further and further afield, and
all these things played a major role in laying the framework for modern
capitalism. Ryder was, at the same time, a deeply pious and traditional
Protestant and wrote a two and a half million word diary to document his
religious life. So he lived at the intersection of these big religious
and material forces, and he's an ideal case study for seeing how they
interacted.
Today,
Protestantism and capitalism seem pretty comfortable with each other -- in many
parts of the American South and Midwest, for instance, they both stand
triumphant, with arms joined. But in the 18th century you chronicle, they seem
to be in some serious tension with each other, don't they?
I
agree that they now they seem designed for each other. Mega-churches meet
all the basic definitions of big business. There are also, to be fair,
subplots that complicate the story, more selfless social activists within the
various denominations, and so on. But the way things largely stand today
is pretty different from how they were envisioned in the centuries closer to
the Reformation. Sermons back then railed against acquisitiveness,
successful parishioners wrung their hands even when they balked at the idea of
maximizing profits. What complicates this image is that the Puritan ethos
was also partly responsible for a new more relentless mode of striving in the
world. For reasons that I think Max Weber was basically the first to see,
and however much the argument may need to be modified, Protestantism at its
most scrupulous, at its most unguided by external authority, and in the right
economic setting could encourage secular ambition as a way to overcome anxiety
about salvation.
The
nature of Christianity changed during this period, as Newton took hold and the
Enlightenment reinforced the prestige science and rationalism. "A watchful
God had become a watchmaker," you write. What happened and how was it felt
at the time?
Christianity
in the eighteenth century is hard to describe without qualification. This
is, after all, the age of the first great awakening. But if traditional
Christianity in western Europe was reasserting itself, this was in large part
because it was also changing in the hands of rationalists, who may have been a
minority of the population but who for that very reason were also radically
vocal. In the eyes of these anti-traditionalists, Jesus was often seen as
a mere man, God was conceptualized as a sort of mathematician who designed a
universe according to such sublime laws that it could run itself without
Providential intervention, and the notion that humans are fundamentally
depraved no longer seemed tenable. Religious figures who were coming to
think this way were also especially successful by the later eighteenth century
in getting their message across to the emerging industrialists. Churches
throughout the north of England that had more or less been Calvinist at the
beginning of the century were actively looking for religious radicals,
particularly Unitarians, to start leading the flock. Historians have more
or less known that this was happening, but what has been missing from the story
is the sort of parishioner's first hand account that Ryder offers.
Ryder
recorded in his diary something like 5,000 sermons that he heard preached
throughout Yorkshire, and what this record shows are two really interesting
things. One is that the new religious outlook, with its emphasis on the
dignity of humans and the humanity of Jesus, had a natural affinity with
emerging commercial self-interest. Puritanism could also encourage
economic striving to overcome anxiety about salvation, but it had a much
stricter definition of what counted as economic excess. And it's much
easier to be fully self-interested if, for example, you actually believe that
you're worthwhile rather than utterly depraved as Puritans thought.
So to accommodate the remarkable wealth that industrialists were
generating, the religion of so many of these people had to soften on certain
points. A more rationalist religion was more compatible with more
materially rational expectations. But then the other thing that Ryder
shows is that this religious and cultural shift could unsettle more
conservative parishioners, who nevertheless stuck it out with some of the
chapels that were basically turning the old Puritan ethos upside down.
Ryder went to his grave feeling like the ministers who were telling him
to love himself a little more were actually getting Christianity wrong.
So I think you have to see religious change in the Enlightenment for the
incredibly complicated process that it was. But once you do see that,
then the reason that the cultural effort to decriminalize self-interest was so
concerted becomes intelligible--and this really was a decades long effort on
the part of opinion makers like David Hume, Adam Smith, and others. It
was hard to convince people, the very sorts of industrious people who Smith
theorized could make the nation unprecedentedly rich, that the traditional
Christian take on wealth was exactly wrong. Trying to transform
self-interest from a vice into a virtue was such a massive cultural project for
people like Adam Smith because people like Ryder, however poised they were to
bolster the wealth of the nation by virtue of their industry and enterprise,
were committed to a sort of morality that Smith and others saw as antithetical
to capitalism.
What
surprised you the most in your research as you dove into Ryder's life and
times?
That
he was actually interesting. I recognized right away that his diary was
an incredible source, and I knew I had to try to do something with it, but I
was put off by his perspective. I had originally been much more
interested in the radicals. But I didn't just grow to like him, which is
in any case not a necessary condition for writing about someone. I grew
interested in how torn he was. He equivocates about everything, not just
commerce. He could come across rioters and feel for them, but only if
they were rioting from need and in reaction to unfair laws. He had a deep
sense of social propriety but could still feel sympathy for a maligned woman
who showed up at his house drunk one night looking for spiritual advice.
He dressed down his household workers who helped him make cloth and
afterwards confided to his diary that he was just as undisciplined in his youth
and should think twice before feeling superior. Those same workers were
often orphans who he seems to have been attached to in at least of couple of
cases, in no small part because he and his wife tried but failed to have
children of their own. And then that wife, a woman he never actually
names in his diary, was an object of serious ambivalence. When they
married just a few months after the woman he was really in love with got away,
he found her less exciting than his diary. A few years into the marriage
they had grown emotionally attached, and he was devastated when she died before
her fortieth birthday and he had to go on alone for another decade and a half.
By all accounts people also liked him. Maybe not surprisingly.
Ambivalent people see things from at least two angles, and that can make
them much more empathetic beings than the dogmatists.
Which
historical school or method are you most indebted to, and why is is important
to you?
When
I was an undergraduate I had a picture of Foucault on the wall beside my desk,
still such a great picture from the interview he did in Vanity Fair in '83, not
long before he died. I don't see him in the same exalted way, but one
thing I took from him I still believe: doing history can usefully
denature the present. You get the same insight in Marx, another big
influence. Nietzsche too. But Foucault also made me think that a
key part of the story was the early modern past, especially in western Europe.
In graduate school I fell more under the influence of people like Weber,
Pierre Bourdieu and others who more or less assert the importance of culture as
a motive force even while staying tuned in to the material. And when
trying to describe culture I've learned not just from Clifford Geertz but from
the major figures in semiotics who I avidly read as an undergraduate, from
practitioners of microhistory like Carlo Ginzburg, from the British Marxists
historians, especially Thompson, Hill, and Hobsbawm, that last of whom, despite
his flaws, was particularly inspiring as one of my own teachers in graduate
school. A number of historians have also directly taught me the
importance of archival research. Margaret Jacob stands at the top of that
list. Her energy and curiosity in the archives are legendary, and she has
had major insights about the enlightenment and the causes of industrialization
because of her willingness to undertake some pretty unromantic labor. I
could say the same about my undergraduate mentor William Taylor, one of the
great colonial Latin Americanists, whose footnotes will make you tremble.
Really I could say the same about two other guys who I worked with in
graduate school, Tim Harris and Phil Benedict. When you approach history
as a philosophy student, as I did when I first began graduate school, there's a
real temptation to be theoretical at the expense of contemporaries' experience.
I'm grateful to the theorists who can so clearly lay out the big
questions. But if I hadn't been encouraged by these historians I've just
named, and they're not the only ones, then I don't think I'd have anything
remotely useful to say about what happened in the past.
For
a musician or music fan, there must be a double resonance to studying northern
English industrial cities like Leeds or Manchester. Not only did they
experience what you call "the birth pangs of modern capitalism" more
acutely than anywhere else, these cities have produced more than their share of
great rock music -- Gang of Four, Mekons, Joy Division, Smiths, Stone Roses,
many more. Do you see any relation between those early-modern social forces and
the culture that emerged much later?
I
guess I don't see much of a relationship when it comes to religion. In
the centuries that separate these bands from the people I look at in the book
there's a good case to be made that Christianity has almost died in Britain.
With the economy there may be more of a connection. These bands are
to de-industrialization what Ryder was to pre-industrialization. And
without the industrial revolution, Manchester and Leeds would still likely be
small towns with little of the context--gritty urban decay, university life,
radical class politics, and so on--that helped define those bands and their
sound, especially when their music was recorded by Martin Hannett. It's a
great question, and I wish I had a better answer.
Congratulations
to Matt Kadane the historian -- what is next for Matt Kadane the indie rock
star?
The
New Year is two-thirds finished with a new record. The basic tracks are
done and in the case of a few songs we're further along. My brother and I
also have a new band with David Bazan and Will Johnson called Overseas.
We just finished mastering the first record, which is set to come out at
the beginning of June, followed by some shows in August on the east coast, west
coast, and in Texas. I'm excited to play music again.
THIS week on HBO, Americans can catch up with a literary adaptation that hit hard in the UK last year: Parade's End. Godlike playwright Tom Stoppard adapted this series of four short novels by the underrated Ford Madox Ford -- published in the '20s and set around World War I.
Yours truly had a story today on the miniseries and the process of adapting a very long and difficult text. It meant, among other things, that I got to sip coffee with Stoppard at the Chateau Marmont while the crew set up for the Vanity Fair party. (Overall, I'd rather have a serious conversation with a major writer, so I don't mind not being invited this year.)
I have more good cuttiny-room-floor material from this story than I usually do, including a long interview with Benedict Cumerbatch, who plays the lead role. I'll post some of it here once I clean a few things up.
And here is my original ending to the piece, which will make the most sense to those who've seen most of the miniseries:
Tietjens’ wife doesn’t have
the same regard for him. Hall plays Sylvia as a lusty, restless redhead – Molly
Ringwald’s evil twin. But she’s not, Hall says, simply evil: The actress was in
awe of her character’s audacity as well as her contradictions. “I thought, if
they don’t hate me by the end of the first episode, I’m not doing my job. And
if they don’t like me by the end of the fourth episode, I’m not doing my job. I
have to play those extremes.”
The stubbornness of these three characters puts them on a
collision course that resolves in the mini-series’ last scenes. Stoppard, in
his initial meetings with the show’s producers, emphasized that this was not going
to be a war film: The war serves, instead, as a metaphor for changing times in
the same way that Crawley manor does.
“It was the war that forced British society to go through
this sea change,” he says. “In 1918 women got the vote – [though] not all of
them. Social values, moral values. All the arts kind of went berserk in the
face of the horrors that had been witnessed. And you can see how absurd it
would have seemed for Tietjens to hold onto his prewar worldview. Or his view
of himself for that matter.”
FOR a few thousand of us, last week marked one of the musical events of the decade. After more than 20 years of near-silence, My Bloody Valentine released a new, noisy, hazy, dreamy new album. I spent part of 1990 in England, where the shoegaze revolution was roaring full force, and passed much of the '90s sulking through record stores trying to find out of print EPs and import singles by this glorious band. (In the early '90s I saw Ride at the "old" 9:30 Club and the band was so loud my then girlfriend fled the venue and met me on the sidewalk outside after the show.)
So while I've not really had the chance to turn the new MBV up to 11, it all sent me back to my love of the genre, and to a story I wrote a few years ago about the shoegaze movement. The dreampop field was so out of fashion then, and so limited to fellow powerless Gen Xers, that I had to plead mightily for the space for this modest piece. It begins:
About a decade ago, while the Seattle grunge movement was drawing most of the music media's attention, a loose collection of mop-topped British and Irish musicians who explored guitar textures, converted noise into dreamy melody and experimented with hip-hop beats made some of the most compelling music of their era.
These days, a number of younger bands are emulating the rush of the original late '80s/early '90s shoegazers. One of those is The Pains of Being Pure at Heart, who also bring in other early indie movements. A former member of the band -- L.A.-based Chris Hochheim, who calls himself Ablebody -- has a fine new EP. Like his old band, it's hardly a carbon copy of Ride or MBV or Slowdive, but feels deeply connected to those bands.
Here is a link to listen to Ablebody's All My Everybody EP.
SOMETHING about the cool weather, the melange of religious
songs and the reflective tone of the end of the end of the year leads me to
play a lot of acoustic folk music around the holidays. (And lest you jeer at
the frigid winters we have in Southern California, I’ll tell you that it was in
the 50s most of today and I could actually see my breath this morning. Okay, so
we’re not in Yorkshire.)
In any case, two newish records have pushed their way into
my end-of-year folk canon. Both have connections to the West Coast, which may
be the best folk (and folk-rock) terrain outside the British Isles.
The first is Deer Creek Canyon, by the youngish Seattle-based folk singer Sera
Cahoone. This is her third record, but she’s new to me and I don’t know her
story in much detail. (Turns out she played drums in Band of Horses for a while
– huh?)
I’ll just say: I don’t often hear an artist who’s able to
blend tradition with a solid personality this well. None of these songs make me
rethink the history of music, but all are intelligent, tastefully played and
effortlessly tuneful. A few – Rumpshaker, Shakin’ Hands – are better than that.
The other album comes from a whole other generation. Bert
Jasch was a Scotsman and one of the fathers of Britfolk. His show at Largo a
few years back – his last American tour, I think – was one of the most riveting
performances I’ve ever seen, with his peerless fingerpicking, his adaptation of
traditional English and Celtic songs, and his rough-hewn voice.
Janch made a number of classic records in the ‘60s, some
with John Renbourn; my favorite live record of his is the reasonably obscure
Live in Australia.
But Omnivore has just released a two-CD disc that captures
the late fingerpicking hero near his high point. The title disc, Heartbreak,
was recorded in 1982. But even better is the second disc here, Live at McCabe’s
Guitar Shop, which captures a 1981 solo date at the Santa Monica shrine.
Jansch opens with the old Irish song “Curragh of Kildare” and
works his way through “Blackwater Side,” “Come Back Baby,” “The First Time Ever
I Saw Your Face” (a Celt folk tune by Ewan MacColl before Elvis made it famous)
and a song he had special sympathy with – the darkly romantic “Blues Run the
Game.”
All of this music will be ringing and chiming around my
house this week. Happy West Coast folk holidays to all.